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Change anthem please.

It is still showing the old anthem. Please change it as soon as possible.

Best Regards 2A02:B98:4731:2AD0:DDEC:4948:5FEB:1098 (talk) 08:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Abo Yemen ✉ 09:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The anthem has changed, because the syrian national team played against yemen in a friendly and played the new national anthem:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE2kDTFs40i/?igsh=MWt1OTZmd3MyM3lpeg== Invisious (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

National Anthem

did the national anthem change? Invisious (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox placement

Why is the infobox placed at the very too unlike other pages where it is below a paragraph? GucciNuzayer (talk) 20:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happening on the Lebanon and Israel pages too. I've asked at WP:VPT. CMD (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 28 January 2025 New coat of arms

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Description of suggested change: The current coat of arms shown in the syrian wikipedia seems to be wrong, currently the new government uses a different but similar coat of flag seen below.

Syria ministry of education with the new coat of arms
What it should be

Srouces: sana.sy, syrian government websites

Not done: Please sign a signature with four tildes. I'm also very confused as you said that the hawk on the left needs to flipped right, but when I went to the source it shows a left head. You may request again on a new section once everything is settled. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:47, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is already fixed. Thanks. This talk can now be closed AbdullahAlhariri0 (talk) 16:32, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

well the new coat of arms had a changed font and a less golden color, but the image is low in quality Invisious (talk) 13:11, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 February 2025

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46.213.149.23 (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC) please change the anthem to Fi sabil al-Majd in arabic. في سبيل المجد because the anthem changed after The Fall of Assad regime on 8, December, 2024. And thank you.[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aintabli (talk) 22:03, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE2kDTFs40i/?igsh=MWt1OTZmd3MyM3lpeg== Invisious (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

The flag isn't de facto anymore, it's seen at every meeting, conference etc., used everywhere and official. Should say de jure Viceskeeni2 (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree until a constitution is made - There is no active constitution in syria. It's de facto because it's not law but is used regardless if it is or not. If it were to be just de jure it wouldn't be used but it would be law. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 19:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need a constitution, but so far the only source we have on official status is the DAANES government. CMD (talk) 03:11, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 03:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

population estimate

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Update population estimate for 2025 in the country infobox. UN estimate is more than 25 million. source: https://population.un.org/dataportal/ Hasancelikbilek35 (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: We don't always rely on the UN. If we replace the current estimate and replace it with 25,000,000, it would also make people think that Syria has exactly 25 million people. We also use a different source for the population, so that's unnecessary. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 19:33, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 4 February 2025

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Description of suggested change: This page says 74% Sunni, 13% Shia, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Syria says 79% Sunni, 14% Shia -- which one is correct?

Diff:

Xapie128 (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: the source cited in the other article says: Muslim 87% (official; includes Sunni 74% and Alawi, Ismaili, and Shia 13%), Christian 10% (includes Orthodox, Uniate, and Nestorian), Druze 3%.

This article uses two different sources (that I haven't checked). As to which is correct, I don't know. M.Bitton (talk) 16:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the claim on Hatay province from the top of the page as the new government doesn't support it

Syrian Interior Ministry has published a map of Syria without a claim on Hatay. That’s clearly the new policy of the government. It shows that the old administration’s claim has been dropped. I don't believe that we should wait for some kind of a declaration to make it known because obviously this is a topic that they won't even take serious enough to make a statement. So I think that there is no meaning to put it on the top of the page. Until they make a statement on contrary (if ever), Wikipedia should reflect current realities rather than outdated historical positions. Without clear confirmation from the current leadership, maintaining the claim introduces bias and contradicts Wikipedia’s neutrality standards. There is no recent declaration or policy statement from Syria’s leadership supporting the Hatay claim, making it inaccurate to present it as an active territorial dispute. Therefore, I repeat my proposal for removing this claim unless there is verifiable, up-to-date evidence to support its inclusion. The existing mention in the international disputes section provides sufficient context, making further emphasis unnecessary. And we should also change the map according to that new reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by E3.akpinar (talk • contribs) 21:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://x.com/aleamaliaat_ale/status/1889332421079757304?t=kHQaX9IazCCNNDNX2J9Hiw&s=19

proof that the new syrian government doesn't recognize hatay as their land Invisious (talk) 15:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

population estimate

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Update population estimate for 2025 in the country infobox Source: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/syria-population/ Hasancelikbilek35 (talk) 23:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]